Comments on: Ritvik Movement Calls it Quits: Unable to Think Up More Silly Names for ISKCON Gurus

By: Appreciative Reader

Appreciative Reader — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:52:47 +0000

“Bhakti Raj Prabhu dasa,” Comment #15, should start a support group with the sour and dour “Elfreda” from “Brahmacarini Gets the Hell Out of the Way” for Hing readers who think other Hing readers are “sad.”

By: Bhakta David Nollmeyer

Bhakta David Nollmeyer — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:37:54 +0000

Jaya Obama !!!

The more that things change, the more they
stay the same…

gopi jnanana vallahba

Bhakta David Nollmeyer

By: Bh James

Bh James — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:06:12 +0000

OMK!(oh my Krsna!) This was soooo funny!! Made my day!! But, ya know, there’s some devotees here who actually thought the piece was real…!!
ys Bh James

By: premasru

premasru — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:01:03 +0000

haribol to all you dear people, thank you, thank you, i have waited 20 years to see devotees lighten up and stop taking themselves so seriously. Keep it going.

By: JayaBlissNectar

JayaBlissNectar — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:22:23 +0000

Sound point, Madhava Gosh – this is precisely one of the areas where devotees need to change their outlook. Devotees’ blatant hypocrisy in using milk products that emerge from a dairy industry notorious for animal cruelty has not gone unnoticed in wider society, especially among those attuned to animal rights.

Maybe after addressing that issue we can remove any references in our “scriptures” to women being less intelligent, something that has alienated innumerable people.

By: Madhava Gosh

Madhava Gosh — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:57:41 +0000

>The models currently in use are outdated and there are simply too many sacred cows involved.

The problem is that the sacred cows of both ISKCON fundamentalists and antiISKCON fundamentalist (like the Rittviks ) aren’t cows.

Ironically, the mold busting move would be to replace the metaphorical sacred cows with real sacred cows. You know, the kind that moo and don’t use toilet paper.

Here’s an idea for a Hing article — a parody of devotees of a Cowherd Boy who offer Him milk from cows that will be slaughtered and then look down their noses at vegans.

No wait, that would be too far fetched, right? Even Maya herself couldn’t pull that mind boggler off.

By: Bhakta David Nollmeyer

Bhakta David Nollmeyer — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:54:00 +0000

Haribol Prabhus

He who laughs last, laughs the HARDEST.

All gloriies to the assembled devotees.

By: JayaBlissNectar

JayaBlissNectar — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:09:39 +0000

Yeah, sounds fine, Raj. I for one welcome anything that is progressive and light in mood, like this excellent website, for example.

Devotees need new paradigms for both practising and propagating Krsna consciousness. The models currently in use are outdated and there are simply too many sacred cows involved. Let’s have forward-thinking non-conformists who possess some panache and the ability to improvise effectively on what has gone before.

In the meantime satirising some of the ways of old is a valuable exercise.

By: Bhakti Raj Prabhu dasa

Bhakti Raj Prabhu dasa — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:34:41 +0000

Yeah, I hear ya, JBN. And I suppose that I’m guilty of that rigid worldview, so thanx for bringing me down to earth, which – when it’s all said & done – is where we live. When I said that I felt sad, what I meant was not that kidding around was wrong; God knows the world could use a little humor. It’s just that some of the ‘kidding’ is not kidding. As my dear, departed Aunt once told me, “Raj, many a truth is spoken in jest.” A bit of ‘history o’ me’ may put things into perspective: I was around ISKCON almost from its inception, and at first things were just SO cool and ostensibly emotionally cushy and loving! I think what we may have forgotten in all that ‘1960’s-think’ (admittedly,some of it fueled with LSD) was that, at least at this stage of our spiritual journey, we were human beings with all the built-in ’stuff’ that goes with the territory. I think our idealism and our desire to be ‘perfect devotees’ overshadowed that very important truth. If so many of us – myself included – had not been so rigidly locked in our individual pious comas and cut each other a little slack, perhaps the history of ISKCON might’ve been different.
So when I use the word ’sad’, I guess what I mean is that I would like to see all of us lighten up and come together, realizing that our goal is not just to love God, but also to love one another.
Does this sound OK?

By: JayaBlissNectar

JayaBlissNectar — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:22:45 +0000

What’s sad, “Bhakti Raj Prabhu dasa”, is that devotees almost habitually take both themselves and their particular worldview too seriously. Such rigidity leads to unfortunate attitudes such as fanaticism, narrow-mindedness and fundamentalism, which pretty much sums up ISKCON – an organisation that lost its way long ago – don’t you think?