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		<title>By: Boy-R-D dasa (not the chef)</title>
		<link>http://www.thehing.com/2008/02/15/ex-iskcon-guru-now-ex-ithaca-car-salesman/comment-page-1/#comment-1265</link>
		<dc:creator>Boy-R-D dasa (not the chef)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 03:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion.  Although it pains me badly to hear Srila Prabhupada publically critisized by devotees, we must individually behave like spiritual scientists and find out if Krishna Consciousness has any actual value, or if it is only a bluff.  That was Srila Prabhupada&#039;s actual challenge to each of us.  We must each practice our spiritual sadhana individually, and gradually after a long and arduous efforts, perhaps spaning many, many births, come to real knowledge, and true understanding.  That is practically the only way we can believe that Krishna Consciousness is real - we have to qualify ourselves individually by our own efforts.  But if we are lucky, and we should always hold out for suprise luck - there is Gurukripa and Krishnakripa.  We must hope against hope for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion.  Although it pains me badly to hear Srila Prabhupada publically critisized by devotees, we must individually behave like spiritual scientists and find out if Krishna Consciousness has any actual value, or if it is only a bluff.  That was Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s actual challenge to each of us.  We must each practice our spiritual sadhana individually, and gradually after a long and arduous efforts, perhaps spaning many, many births, come to real knowledge, and true understanding.  That is practically the only way we can believe that Krishna Consciousness is real &#8211; we have to qualify ourselves individually by our own efforts.  But if we are lucky, and we should always hold out for suprise luck &#8211; there is Gurukripa and Krishnakripa.  We must hope against hope for this.</p>
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		<title>By: spirit soul</title>
		<link>http://www.thehing.com/2008/02/15/ex-iskcon-guru-now-ex-ithaca-car-salesman/comment-page-1/#comment-1254</link>
		<dc:creator>spirit soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s unbelievable what souls like (appreciate reader, Devak &amp; others) thinks and writes about His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. 
Shame on you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unbelievable what souls like (appreciate reader, Devak &amp; others) thinks and writes about His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.<br />
Shame on you!</p>
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		<title>By: Rati</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZAP! Oh my God! That&#039;s so great! Looks like Four White Dudes Kickin&#039; Ass On Stage might just have some competition.
Gotta give &#039;em credit.&#039;Thanks for that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZAP! Oh my God! That&#8217;s so great! Looks like Four White Dudes Kickin&#8217; Ass On Stage might just have some competition.<br />
Gotta give &#8216;em credit.&#8217;Thanks for that!</p>
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		<title>By: yas</title>
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		<dc:creator>yas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it seems that this website has become a meeting place for all the ingrates , women worshipers and amateur psychology analysts.Pfui.I bet bhakta Eric&#039;s bhakti lata bhij is flourishing for facilitating this filthy&quot; mental menstruation&quot; forum.

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;From The Hing Editors:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Simmer down. &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s a ska song about Jesus!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it seems that this website has become a meeting place for all the ingrates , women worshipers and amateur psychology analysts.Pfui.I bet bhakta Eric&#8217;s bhakti lata bhij is flourishing for facilitating this filthy&#8221; mental menstruation&#8221; forum.</p>
<p><strong><em>From The Hing Editors:</em></strong><br />
<em>Simmer down. <a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s a ska song about Jesus!</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Devak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>INDIA, Gujurat 

Dearest Devotees:

I  have to agree with Appreciate reader.

A. C. B. was an old man from West Bengal when he came to America in 1965.  All he knew was what he was taught from childhood.  He had the attitude that was very common in India at that time [and still is in most part.]

Many young men were extremely attracted to his attitudes and still are.  They love to treat women as less than equal.  These same males like to act like little demi-Gods and lord it over the weaker.  

Srila Praphupada, a &quot;good as God Acarya&quot; ....hardly.  Sooner or  later the current crop of devotees may come to their senses.  Thank God a few have...but not many.

A.C. B. freely admitted on a morning walk in India that he loved the attention he was getting as the founder of ISKCON.  I heard him say it.  He had a big smile on his face.

He said that he had always hoped that it would someday come to him,  like it had come to Gandhi . That one little remark did him more damage than he could ever have realized.  It revealed him to be egomanical.  

It forever proved him to be just another person like all the rest of us.....full of flaws.  He also did some  good things along the way.

Devak.....Hare Krsna...all praises to God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>INDIA, Gujurat </p>
<p>Dearest Devotees:</p>
<p>I  have to agree with Appreciate reader.</p>
<p>A. C. B. was an old man from West Bengal when he came to America in 1965.  All he knew was what he was taught from childhood.  He had the attitude that was very common in India at that time [and still is in most part.]</p>
<p>Many young men were extremely attracted to his attitudes and still are.  They love to treat women as less than equal.  These same males like to act like little demi-Gods and lord it over the weaker.  </p>
<p>Srila Praphupada, a &#8220;good as God Acarya&#8221; &#8230;.hardly.  Sooner or  later the current crop of devotees may come to their senses.  Thank God a few have&#8230;but not many.</p>
<p>A.C. B. freely admitted on a morning walk in India that he loved the attention he was getting as the founder of ISKCON.  I heard him say it.  He had a big smile on his face.</p>
<p>He said that he had always hoped that it would someday come to him,  like it had come to Gandhi . That one little remark did him more damage than he could ever have realized.  It revealed him to be egomanical.  </p>
<p>It forever proved him to be just another person like all the rest of us&#8230;..full of flaws.  He also did some  good things along the way.</p>
<p>Devak&#8230;..Hare Krsna&#8230;all praises to God.</p>
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		<title>By: Appreciate Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Appreciate Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenny,

Certainly, misogyny and sexism (along with racism and other pernicious social ills) existed long before Prabhupada came to America.  

But, as someone who was supposed to be enlightened, spiritually realized, God-realized and, indeed, &quot;as good as God,&quot;  Prabhupada really should have done better.  Especially, knowing that his every word was being recorded and accepted as &quot;absolute truth&quot; by his naive and inexperienced disciples, he had a grave responsbility to do better.  

Why, even in this week&#039;s Time magazine, Mark Twain is being profiled for having &quot;pioneered the sophisticated literary attack against racism.&quot;  Why couldn&#039;t Prabhupada, an &quot;as-good-as-God-Acarya,&quot; have done at least as well?  

But the fact is that he didn&#039;t.  He said horrific, abusive things about women and about black people and he ordered his disciples to send their tiny 4-and-5-year-old children away to Dallas and other so-called &quot;gurukulas,&quot; where they were violently abused and sexually molested.  

And then, in ADDITION to all that, as you say, Kenny, &quot;devotees brought their own hang-ups and sexism to Krishna Consciousness and twisted/took advantage of Srila Prabhupada’s words,&quot; which have lent themselves to unfathomable abuse over the past four decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenny,</p>
<p>Certainly, misogyny and sexism (along with racism and other pernicious social ills) existed long before Prabhupada came to America.  </p>
<p>But, as someone who was supposed to be enlightened, spiritually realized, God-realized and, indeed, &#8220;as good as God,&#8221;  Prabhupada really should have done better.  Especially, knowing that his every word was being recorded and accepted as &#8220;absolute truth&#8221; by his naive and inexperienced disciples, he had a grave responsbility to do better.  </p>
<p>Why, even in this week&#8217;s Time magazine, Mark Twain is being profiled for having &#8220;pioneered the sophisticated literary attack against racism.&#8221;  Why couldn&#8217;t Prabhupada, an &#8220;as-good-as-God-Acarya,&#8221; have done at least as well?  </p>
<p>But the fact is that he didn&#8217;t.  He said horrific, abusive things about women and about black people and he ordered his disciples to send their tiny 4-and-5-year-old children away to Dallas and other so-called &#8220;gurukulas,&#8221; where they were violently abused and sexually molested.  </p>
<p>And then, in ADDITION to all that, as you say, Kenny, &#8220;devotees brought their own hang-ups and sexism to Krishna Consciousness and twisted/took advantage of Srila Prabhupada’s words,&#8221; which have lent themselves to unfathomable abuse over the past four decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Nandini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nandini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenny,

I agree, I have been saying this for a long time now. Prabhupada may have made things worse, but he was NOT singly responsible for the abuse of women and children in Iskcon. In our culture too there are men who would love, like large  sections of Indian, Middle Easter and African men, be free to beat and rape women as they wished. 

What I find amazing is that people like the poster YAS here, denounces rape  of children but fails to make the connection that disrespect for women is the first step to abuse of children and other less self-defensible groups in society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenny,</p>
<p>I agree, I have been saying this for a long time now. Prabhupada may have made things worse, but he was NOT singly responsible for the abuse of women and children in Iskcon. In our culture too there are men who would love, like large  sections of Indian, Middle Easter and African men, be free to beat and rape women as they wished. </p>
<p>What I find amazing is that people like the poster YAS here, denounces rape  of children but fails to make the connection that disrespect for women is the first step to abuse of children and other less self-defensible groups in society.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s RIGHT! Before Srila Prabhupada came to American, sexism didn&#039;t exist. 

It certainly  couldn&#039;t be that the devotees brought their own hang ups and sexism to Krishna Consciousness and twisted/took advantage of Srila Prabhupada&#039;s words for their own material benefit. Oh my no. 

That darn Prabhupada! And ohhh those pure, innocent ISKCON devotees he corrupted! 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s RIGHT! Before Srila Prabhupada came to American, sexism didn&#8217;t exist. </p>
<p>It certainly  couldn&#8217;t be that the devotees brought their own hang ups and sexism to Krishna Consciousness and twisted/took advantage of Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s words for their own material benefit. Oh my no. </p>
<p>That darn Prabhupada! And ohhh those pure, innocent ISKCON devotees he corrupted!</p>
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		<title>By: Appreciative Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Appreciative Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nandini, of course YAS&#039; statements are abusive and dangerous.  But remember, all misogyny in ISKCON comes from Prabhupada himself.  &quot;Women are less intelligent,&quot; &quot;women have smaller brains,&quot; &quot;women enjoy being raped,&quot; &quot;all unmarried women are prostitutes,&quot; &quot;giving birth to girl children is a &#039;defect&#039;,&quot;  and on and on and on.  

And it was Prabhupada who, as quoted in the &quot;Lilamrta,&quot; criticized his male family members for &quot;eating and sleeping like a bunch of women.&quot;  

So, the unfortunate reality is that as long as you choose to hang around ISKCON, you can expect the same abusive and dangerous mentality from those who accept Prabhupada to be &quot;as good as God&quot; and who accept his every word to be absolute truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nandini, of course YAS&#8217; statements are abusive and dangerous.  But remember, all misogyny in ISKCON comes from Prabhupada himself.  &#8220;Women are less intelligent,&#8221; &#8220;women have smaller brains,&#8221; &#8220;women enjoy being raped,&#8221; &#8220;all unmarried women are prostitutes,&#8221; &#8220;giving birth to girl children is a &#8216;defect&#8217;,&#8221;  and on and on and on.  </p>
<p>And it was Prabhupada who, as quoted in the &#8220;Lilamrta,&#8221; criticized his male family members for &#8220;eating and sleeping like a bunch of women.&#8221;  </p>
<p>So, the unfortunate reality is that as long as you choose to hang around ISKCON, you can expect the same abusive and dangerous mentality from those who accept Prabhupada to be &#8220;as good as God&#8221; and who accept his every word to be absolute truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Nandini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nandini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YAS wrote:
&lt;i&gt;I suppose when you are divorced there is no better things to do but to hang around and gossip like a bunch of women.&lt;/i&gt;

YAS, this comment of yours is very abusive to women. Do you realize that this is actually a sign of hatred for women,  the very kind of mentality that is at the root of rape of children? Disregard for women because of personal sexual frustration is very dangerous, way more dangerous than bad jokes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAS wrote:<br />
<i>I suppose when you are divorced there is no better things to do but to hang around and gossip like a bunch of women.</i></p>
<p>YAS, this comment of yours is very abusive to women. Do you realize that this is actually a sign of hatred for women,  the very kind of mentality that is at the root of rape of children? Disregard for women because of personal sexual frustration is very dangerous, way more dangerous than bad jokes.</p>
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